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		<title>Comment on Civil Engineering Blog List by Skylar</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/08/civil-engineering-blog-list/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Skylar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam, thanks for the comment.

I definitely agree that google alerts are a great way to receive the news you need in any given field - no matter how small the niche. I was pleasantly surprised when I found that they created rss feeds for the service (it was previously email only).

I have found a few other blogs in my discipline now, so it must be high time to update this list!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam, thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>I definitely agree that google alerts are a great way to receive the news you need in any given field - no matter how small the niche. I was pleasantly surprised when I found that they created rss feeds for the service (it was previously email only).</p>
<p>I have found a few other blogs in my discipline now, so it must be high time to update this list!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Civil Engineering Blog List by Pam Broviak</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/08/civil-engineering-blog-list/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam Broviak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you - have spent some time today trying to find the same type of list and decided to try a trick I used to find public works-related sites: Using google alerts you can set up an alert for specific terms like "civil engineering" then you can read the articles in your Google Reader. 

I used mine to put a feed on my website so anyone visiting will get the most up-to-date stories on the Web about Public Works. If you visit the site, you will see the type of feed you get at the top (although you have to use an additional tool like Yahoo Pipes to get this). Eventually this service can help lead you to other blogs.

I am adding your site to my list too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you - have spent some time today trying to find the same type of list and decided to try a trick I used to find public works-related sites: Using google alerts you can set up an alert for specific terms like &#8220;civil engineering&#8221; then you can read the articles in your Google Reader. </p>
<p>I used mine to put a feed on my website so anyone visiting will get the most up-to-date stories on the Web about Public Works. If you visit the site, you will see the type of feed you get at the top (although you have to use an additional tool like Yahoo Pipes to get this). Eventually this service can help lead you to other blogs.</p>
<p>I am adding your site to my list too!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Civil Engineering Blog List by Matt Barcus</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/08/civil-engineering-blog-list/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Barcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to try out blog - it consists of topical information as it relates to the civil engineering industry.  Some blog entries are more technical then others, but they mainly discuss trends in the industry and civil engineering headlines.  Also discusses workplace issues, economy, etc, all relating to civil engineering.

Thanks!

Matt Barcus
www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com
building teams . engineering careers
jobs :: resumes :: blog :: discussion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to try out blog - it consists of topical information as it relates to the civil engineering industry.  Some blog entries are more technical then others, but they mainly discuss trends in the industry and civil engineering headlines.  Also discusses workplace issues, economy, etc, all relating to civil engineering.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Matt Barcus<br />
<a href="http://www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.CivilEngineeringCentral.com</a><br />
building teams . engineering careers<br />
jobs :: resumes :: blog :: discussion</p>
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		<title>Comment on Acting as a Civil Engineering Journalist by Skylar</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/12/acting-as-a-civil-engineering-journalist/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Skylar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that with situations like this, it's all too easy to get information out to the public when there is still a "buzz" around the topic.  Then when the dust settles and some basic conclusions and recommendations have been established, mass media no longer has any interest in the matter.
&#160;
While my site does not see a very significant amount of traffic, and much less from the structural field - I am glad to help where I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that with situations like this, it&#8217;s all too easy to get information out to the public when there is still a &#8220;buzz&#8221; around the topic.  Then when the dust settles and some basic conclusions and recommendations have been established, mass media no longer has any interest in the matter.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
While my site does not see a very significant amount of traffic, and much less from the structural field - I am glad to help where I can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Acting as a Civil Engineering Journalist by Geoff Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/12/acting-as-a-civil-engineering-journalist/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope what I am saying IS genuinely helpful and if so that it will have influence in the right places.  I have attempted dialogue with many people but I fear that this preventable failure incident will continue to grow into a grave systemic failure in which the key learnings will not be applied.

My bottom line for the concrete anchoring industry and profession : 1. although AC308 calls up provisions for inspection &#38; verification it doesn't seem to be well understood or applied, 2. AC308 fails to address creep behaviour under the on-site proof testing provisions.

If via this network you can stimulate debate and get responses to this I would be professionally grateful.  I have only received any substantial response from ASCE via the White Paper recently issued and which you also received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope what I am saying IS genuinely helpful and if so that it will have influence in the right places.  I have attempted dialogue with many people but I fear that this preventable failure incident will continue to grow into a grave systemic failure in which the key learnings will not be applied.</p>
<p>My bottom line for the concrete anchoring industry and profession : 1. although AC308 calls up provisions for inspection &amp; verification it doesn&#8217;t seem to be well understood or applied, 2. AC308 fails to address creep behaviour under the on-site proof testing provisions.</p>
<p>If via this network you can stimulate debate and get responses to this I would be professionally grateful.  I have only received any substantial response from ASCE via the White Paper recently issued and which you also received.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Acting as a Civil Engineering Journalist by Skylar</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/12/acting-as-a-civil-engineering-journalist/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>Skylar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff,
&#160;
Thanks for the valuable resource.  I particularly like the affirmation that we need "to understand cause &#38; effect AND to insist on understanding it", and that "Having limits is not a failure - choosing to work beyond them IS".
&#160;
As a young engineer myself, it's important to know my own boundaries and seek help when it is needed.  It applies to all engineering industries, and it's an important lesson that may not be taught in school.
&#160;
Thanks again,
Skylar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff,<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Thanks for the valuable resource.  I particularly like the affirmation that we need &#8220;to understand cause &amp; effect AND to insist on understanding it&#8221;, and that &#8220;Having limits is not a failure - choosing to work beyond them IS&#8221;.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
As a young engineer myself, it&#8217;s important to know my own boundaries and seek help when it is needed.  It applies to all engineering industries, and it&#8217;s an important lesson that may not be taught in school.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Thanks again,<br />
Skylar</p>
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		<title>Comment on Acting as a Civil Engineering Journalist by Geoff Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/12/acting-as-a-civil-engineering-journalist/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following closely the engineering issues behind the Big Dig failure for some time, and I think there are major items still not addressed which pose unmanaged risk.  Industry responses to date will do nothing to stop recurrence of Big Dig-type conditions.  Not many people want to hear that.  I have published and presented about this in Australia.
&#160;
Pls see below verbatim text of a piece I was asked to submit to the (US) PCI Journal in August but which I suspect has been bogged in "peer review".  If you can get some attention for it, good luck! :
&#160;

"Once we look beyond the significant personal &#38; commercial tragedy resulting from the tunnel ceiling collapse in the Boston Big Dig in July 2006 it seems to me there is much that all engineers can learn in various areas of the profession, not just those in the concrete &#38; more specialised precast and anchorage fields.
&#160;
Based upon the excellent report issued by the NTSB it is clear that the failure had little to do with the product merits of adhesive anchors as a class of structural solution and even less to do with prequalification or acceptance criteria.  If I could distil the key message of the NTSB report down to the key points for future action so that similar circumstances will not recur I suggest the following :
&#160;
1. Civil Engineers must be conversant with creep – material susceptibility and required load environment - and that falls to training institutions for undergraduates and industry bodies offering ongoing professional development.  It really shouldn’t be a foreign concept to civil engineers given that we all should have studied that both concrete and timber can be creep susceptible.  It is not a new behaviour nor a new technology.
&#160;
2. Product manufacturers “must submit inspection procedures to verify proper usage" as AC308 already calls up.  Regarding adhesive anchors &#38; the Big Dig this extends beyond items like void-free injection to include other measures whereby the correct adhesive product can be readily identified even after packaging has been disposed of.  Perhaps a unique colour for each product within a given manufacturer’s range – at least to distinguish the creep-rated from the non-creep-rated?  And any such procedures must be applied so that without such instructions any product supplied which requires user installation should be considered incomplete.  Appropriate proof-load testing would be the best verification (by definition).  
&#160;
3. Regarding proof-testing there is an urgent need to develop Code provisions which are relevant to assessing creep on site.  Instantaneous and short-term proof-loading (measured in seconds or minutes) is useless as the Boston experience shows.  Proof testing has to prove the performance of the behaviour concerned.  And with creep this means time is involved.  Perhaps the prequalification tests can include key early measurements &#38; limits (at 12hr?, 24hr?, 48hr?) for quick reference to verify performance on site?
&#160;
4. Perhaps most tragically at Boston there was a failure of many in the process to say "STOP" until a satisfactory explanation was found for the irregular observations which started 7 years before the incident.  This returns us to engineering competence but also goes to other fundamentals (to understand cause &#38; effect AND to insist upon understanding it) and also the area of ethics – doing what is right.  This is also a cultural issue and all individuals and organizations in the profession have a duty to reinforce to those learning and to those under pressure to compromise that where the risks of not knowing outweigh the risks of delaying until we know we either stop progress or bring in the expertise needed beyond our limit of competence.  Having limits is not a failure - choosing to work beyond them IS.  Clearly the creeping anchors could not progress indefinitely and this was not some self-limiting system as we might see with load redistribution in some structures.
&#160;
There, but for the grace of God, go many of us and there is no pleasure in seeing fellow concrete engineering professionals getting caught up in a preventable tragedy.  The best response is not recrimination but a commitment to learn from errors &#38; apply our collective expertise to get it right in future so there is no “next time”.
&#160;
Geoff Fletcher CPEng
Melbourne, Australia"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following closely the engineering issues behind the Big Dig failure for some time, and I think there are major items still not addressed which pose unmanaged risk.  Industry responses to date will do nothing to stop recurrence of Big Dig-type conditions.  Not many people want to hear that.  I have published and presented about this in Australia.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Pls see below verbatim text of a piece I was asked to submit to the (US) PCI Journal in August but which I suspect has been bogged in &#8220;peer review&#8221;.  If you can get some attention for it, good luck! :<br />
&nbsp;</p>
<p>&#8220;Once we look beyond the significant personal &amp; commercial tragedy resulting from the tunnel ceiling collapse in the Boston Big Dig in July 2006 it seems to me there is much that all engineers can learn in various areas of the profession, not just those in the concrete &amp; more specialised precast and anchorage fields.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Based upon the excellent report issued by the NTSB it is clear that the failure had little to do with the product merits of adhesive anchors as a class of structural solution and even less to do with prequalification or acceptance criteria.  If I could distil the key message of the NTSB report down to the key points for future action so that similar circumstances will not recur I suggest the following :<br />
&nbsp;<br />
1. Civil Engineers must be conversant with creep – material susceptibility and required load environment - and that falls to training institutions for undergraduates and industry bodies offering ongoing professional development.  It really shouldn’t be a foreign concept to civil engineers given that we all should have studied that both concrete and timber can be creep susceptible.  It is not a new behaviour nor a new technology.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
2. Product manufacturers “must submit inspection procedures to verify proper usage&#8221; as AC308 already calls up.  Regarding adhesive anchors &amp; the Big Dig this extends beyond items like void-free injection to include other measures whereby the correct adhesive product can be readily identified even after packaging has been disposed of.  Perhaps a unique colour for each product within a given manufacturer’s range – at least to distinguish the creep-rated from the non-creep-rated?  And any such procedures must be applied so that without such instructions any product supplied which requires user installation should be considered incomplete.  Appropriate proof-load testing would be the best verification (by definition).<br />
&nbsp;<br />
3. Regarding proof-testing there is an urgent need to develop Code provisions which are relevant to assessing creep on site.  Instantaneous and short-term proof-loading (measured in seconds or minutes) is useless as the Boston experience shows.  Proof testing has to prove the performance of the behaviour concerned.  And with creep this means time is involved.  Perhaps the prequalification tests can include key early measurements &amp; limits (at 12hr?, 24hr?, 48hr?) for quick reference to verify performance on site?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
4. Perhaps most tragically at Boston there was a failure of many in the process to say &#8220;STOP&#8221; until a satisfactory explanation was found for the irregular observations which started 7 years before the incident.  This returns us to engineering competence but also goes to other fundamentals (to understand cause &amp; effect AND to insist upon understanding it) and also the area of ethics – doing what is right.  This is also a cultural issue and all individuals and organizations in the profession have a duty to reinforce to those learning and to those under pressure to compromise that where the risks of not knowing outweigh the risks of delaying until we know we either stop progress or bring in the expertise needed beyond our limit of competence.  Having limits is not a failure - choosing to work beyond them IS.  Clearly the creeping anchors could not progress indefinitely and this was not some self-limiting system as we might see with load redistribution in some structures.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
There, but for the grace of God, go many of us and there is no pleasure in seeing fellow concrete engineering professionals getting caught up in a preventable tragedy.  The best response is not recrimination but a commitment to learn from errors &amp; apply our collective expertise to get it right in future so there is no “next time”.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Geoff Fletcher CPEng<br />
Melbourne, Australia&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on BGR &#038; UNESCO - Map of the World&#8217;s Groundwater Resources by Mike</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/10/bgr-unesco-map-of-the-worlds-groundwater-resources/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a brilliant map!  Thanks for finding my little blog, I'm a UW Master's student in Hydrogeology, so this is right up my alley! 

This is going in the permanent file! Look forward to future posts, I'll put this in the "blogroll".

cheers!
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a brilliant map!  Thanks for finding my little blog, I&#8217;m a UW Master&#8217;s student in Hydrogeology, so this is right up my alley! </p>
<p>This is going in the permanent file! Look forward to future posts, I&#8217;ll put this in the &#8220;blogroll&#8221;.</p>
<p>cheers!<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>Comment on Straw Bale Homes in Ontario by Tod Demuth</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/10/straw-bale-homes-in-ontario/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Tod Demuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Straw bale construction is truly the way to go.  In Nebraska this style was used by settlers who had no trees, but plenty of grass.

The biggest issue so far hasn't been the desire or costs -- it's been the bureaucracy of building codes and obtaining permits.  Not to mention finding builders to help...although with the new economic pressure, that may change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Straw bale construction is truly the way to go.  In Nebraska this style was used by settlers who had no trees, but plenty of grass.</p>
<p>The biggest issue so far hasn&#8217;t been the desire or costs &#8212; it&#8217;s been the bureaucracy of building codes and obtaining permits.  Not to mention finding builders to help&#8230;although with the new economic pressure, that may change.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dutch now using old mines to produce geothermal energy by Kerda</title>
		<link>http://inventcivil.com/2008/10/the-dutch-now-using-old-mines-to-produce-geothermal-energy/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People should read this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should read this.</p>
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